Curse

Sphinx2k · Jun 08, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by generik

Either get a better computer or live the consequences,

You know i rly hate all these people who respond to ppl with a non top-of-the-line PC with get a new one or else u r f***** and should be punished not every one has thousands of dollars to run out and buy a new computer to play there favorute game properly.

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Originally Posted by generik

each time you get dropped your party has to suffer for it. The reason why you got dropped is of no consequence nor consolation to them, the fact that it happened does.

So let me get this stright u want to punish ppl for things that r out of there hands like an err=07/power surge/real like emergancy like say your kid/parent/somone close to u fell down the stairs and need medical assistance are you gonna continue playing til u finished your mission well they lay there at the bottem of the stairs? cuz from the way your attitude is you are probably somone who would do just that.

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Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt

EhtVarious suggestions to improve Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry

Even though we r not talking about fort aspenwood but more a Quitter Title, So ok say "John" has added 75% of the gw community to his ignore list(unlikly but u never know) so now "John" spends his time sitting in fort aspen/jade quarry hoping that the other 25% of the ppl not on his list get on and start playing or is forced to sit and wait hours til they do and in the meantime sits and whines on variours forums about never getting an opposing team.

Saix The Spartan · Jun 08, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Best.Title.Ever. I so would love to see this added, i'm almost never in a group without a quitter nowadays.

Stupid Shizno · Jun 08, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Why cant we create "Arrogant Jerk" title? seems like most of the people infavor this title would earn this easily.

TheSonofDarwin · Jun 08, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Ok, I DO think this is a good idea, but with the current system there are problems as have been mentioned.

A potential workaround, which requires Anet to implement rejoins (which they should be working on):

If you err7, d/c, whatever, it doesn't count towards the title. However, when you rejoin, you are automatically put back in the instance/group you were in. The only way to NOT automatically get put back in the group is to map or type /ragequit (which would close the program), both of which will count towards your quitter title.

This would save those with computer problems, and would hurt those who quit early. If you feel you have the RIGHT to quit the group because they are bad players, well, you don't (atleast not in the system I suggest). You are just as responsible for the team for joining them as they are, bad or good, you took a risk. It's like playing the lottery - whenever you lose, you can't ask for your money back.

Edit: Also, sure this can be circumvented, but doing so just wastes the circumventers precious playing time. You could just go afk, or you could just shut down the gw program and wait an undetermined amount of time and hope when you rejoin the party is already broken up so you wouldn't auto join. Also, this could be combined with the OP's idea that you could work off quitter points just incase you do win the lottery and get the worst group ever, you could map out, take your point, and then go work it off. If it's an infrequent event, it shouldn't even matter.

Response to below: Getting stuck is not a daily or twice/thrice/etc daily occurence. It does happen occasionally, I agree. If you don't quit groups often, you would not work up to earning a quitter title and you'd have your quitter points worked off, and no one would be the wiser that you ever had said points.

Evilsod · Jun 08, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

You just can't make this title work, FACE IT. Practice or in theory this title would never work.

Perhaps i can't be arsed to suicide? Or better still, those rare occasions where you get stuck! I've seen it 3 times, 2 of them we couldn't do anything about and they had to leave.

Generik... please buy me a new computer so i don't waste your precious time if something messes up, until then shut the f*ck up.

Retribution · Jun 08, 2006, 05:12 PM // 17:12

Let me ask you people, what the hell do you have against a title like this?? Be honest, how RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing often do you lag out?? Do you conviniently lag out when you're in a shitty group? Or are you the kind of people who ragequit from random arena because there's no monk? The whole I have a right to quit because they suck is a load of BS. Why don't you tell that to your guild because someone botched a 4 man trap run in UW, or caused you to lose a GvG because he didn't attack whoever he was assigned to?

You wouldn't think of ragequitting on your guild, but for strangers, you have all the reason to. Its because of people like YOU that anet really needs to implement some sort of penalty for exercising your "right" to quit.

Tetram The Troll · Jun 08, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Well, I see nobody agrees with this title. The system could be a little bit more complicated to prevent the players from being injustly sanctionned :

For example :

- a player leaves the game
- a vote is proposed to the other players with two possibilities : leaver and non-leaver
- according to the majority, the player is regarded as a leaver or not
- if the exit of the vote is negative, the player gets +1 to his "Quitter" title
- in the contrary case, nothing happens

Of course, when you are playing alone or with an only-hench team, you won't be penalized. Errors 7 wouldn't lead to a survey.

If a player cumulates 20 points, he becomes an apprentice-quitter, etc...

(Sorry for my bad english)

B Ephekt · Jun 08, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23

This is a stupid idea.

First off, quitting isn’t against any Guild Wars policies or rules, so it’s utterly ridiculous to even think about punishing people for it.

Second, some of us have lives outside the game, and have to leave for things beyond our control. I have a family and a young child, and I will leave if real life demands it. If you can’t understand that, then I’m sorry that your life revolves around Guild Wars.

Third, there is no practical and consistent way to implement this. What about disconnections, power outages or crashes? What about real life? Remember that, the thing where you interact with people offline?

I’m not generally a quitter, but I have and will leave if real life affairs require it. I may get an unexpected phone call, visitor or issue with my child or girlfriend during a mission or match. Am I supposed to just ignore these things? Should I go afk for an undetermined amount of time? I’m sorry but these things are more important than you completing your mission on the first try. Deal with it.

Also, henchmen are there for a reason. If you can’t complete a mission with humans, use the henchmen; every single mission and quest in Guild Wars is completable with henchmen. Stop whining about the leavers and go complete your mission.

BrotherGilburt · Jun 08, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by generik

The title should be tied to your account instead of your character, so deleting your character should be the last of your worries.

Either get a better computer or live the consequences, each time you get dropped your party has to suffer for it. The reason why you got dropped is of no consequence nor consolation to them, the fact that it happened does.

....... Not everyone has the money to buy a new computer.... They shouldn't be punished for that. Also there so many other faults in this that it won't work anyway.

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Originally Posted by Retribution

Let me ask you people, what the hell do you have against a title like this?? Be honest, how RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing often do you lag out?? Do you conviniently lag out when you're in a shitty group? Or are you the kind of people who ragequit from random arena because there's no monk? The whole I have a right to quit because they suck is a load of BS. Why don't you tell that to your guild because someone botched a 4 man trap run in UW, or caused you to lose a GvG because he didn't attack whoever he was assigned to?

You wouldn't think of ragequitting on your guild, but for strangers, you have all the reason to. Its because of people like YOU that anet really needs to implement some sort of penalty for exercising your "right" to quit.

.... what does ragequiting have to do with this...

My computer used to freeze and boot me off GW 3 times a night. I couldn't find anything wrong with it so I couldn't fix it. I don't have enough money to buy a new one... Are you saying I shouldn't play then? Thats ridiculus. I did avoid groups with people most of the time however.

What if one of my family falls and breaks his leg so I go afk. Whats my group supposted to do? They can't leave and reform. They'll be stuck with an afker.

What about elona Reach. If theres a scammer the runner usually leaves and starts over. He can't do that now. What if everyone in your group dies except you and your going for the survivor title? You can't leave.

Also theres no rules or policies against quiting so it would be very stupid to punish people for it.

All of this has been posted by me and others in earlier posts.

Brother Gilburt

Tarun · Jun 08, 2006, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by Tetram The Troll

Suicide?

Anyway,

/signed

bored with these f****** leavers...

Suicide? Rofl, no. How about those who have the Survivor title(s)?

Aki Soyokaze · Jun 08, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Suicide? Rofl, no. How about those who have the Survivor title(s)?

What about them?

Tarun · Jun 08, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by Aki Soyokaze

What about them?

Obviously having to "suicide" would mess up their title. Duh.

Sphinx2k · Jun 08, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Tetram The Troll

For example :

- a player leaves the game
- a vote is proposed to the other players with two possibilities : leaver and non-leaver
- according to the majority, the player is regarded as a leaver or not
- if the exit of the vote is negative, the player gets +1 to his "Quitter" title
- in the contrary case, nothing happens

still flawed how do the ppl know y u quit if u got err=07 or power surge etc etc only way u would know is if they start bsing everone says he is leaving and /ragequits but then again he could have went off on everyone cuz somone else started it and the ppl still vote him as a quiter cuz there pissed he left near the end of a mission even if somone else started it well the person who started it gets off scott free.

Dual UW - monk runs off and leave the necro behind, necro gets pissed shouts here and there and leave and monk votes him a quitter etc etc etc to many example to list them all.

See what happens when u put to much power in the hands of others a quitter title like this would never get implemented cuz there is just no rite way they could do it and make it proper. Do we rly need 1000's of 1000's of ppl msging gw support and bugging them to get a point removed from there account if they have unjustly earned a Quitter Point not like they could do anything anywise cuz how could they tell? becuz you said so?. When they don't remove it ppl just get pissed at gw and they stop buying the new chapters meaning less and less cash for anet which leads to far worse problems.

Ctb · Jun 08, 2006, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Dude... wth? Were they out of keyboards with periods when you picked yours up?

Tetram The Troll · Jun 08, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Suicide? Rofl, no. How about those who have the Survivor title(s)?

Read my post above...
If you capture skills with henchies or friends, the system wouldn't penalize you.

Sphinx2k · Jun 08, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Dude... wth? Were they out of keyboards with periods when you picked yours up?

Didn't your parents ever teach you if u have nothing constructive to say then say nothing at all. If all your gonna do is flame a person for not using a period and not post anything relevant towards the topic itself y even post at all. It's not like we r in RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing english class being graded on are proper use of spelling/grammer usage.

Dravyn · Jun 08, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Its not punishment..if you've earned the Quitter title, which in his scenario means you've quit groups in excess of 50 times, the odds are you not merely dropping from a crappy piece of equipment or a crappy connection...myself, I'd appreciate the forewarning.

I'm all for it. Its not punishment at all, its earning a label, which is most likely well deserved and will warn potential groupmates not to take your sorry ass with them.

TheUndertaker · Jun 08, 2006, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by Death3D

Why cant we create "Arrogant Jerk" title? seems like most of the people infavor this title would earn this easily.

So we're "Arrogant Jerks" because we don't like people quitting on us in the middle of a mission?
Hmmm.

People who quit for no reason really suck but unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it. And most of the time it is for legitimate reasons like a disconnect.

What bothers me even more are those who go AFK and just walk off and leave their computer half way through the mission. They expect you to get them through the mission and come back later after your done. That irks me.

BrotherGilburt · Jun 08, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Dravyn

Its not punishment..if you've earned the Quitter title, which in his scenario means you've quit groups in excess of 50 times, the odds are you not merely dropping from a crappy piece of equipment or a crappy connection...myself, I'd appreciate the forewarning.

I'm all for it. Its not punishment at all, its earning a label, which is most likely well deserved and will warn potential groupmates not to take your sorry ass with them.

It is punishment. If you had this "label" you wouldn't be allowed in many groups. It doesn't mean anything either because people with crappy connection can get it when they never even quit. Also you have to do 15 missions to remove it. If its not a punishment then what is it?

Brother Gilburt

B Ephekt · Jun 08, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Dravyn

Its not punishment..if you've earned the Quitter title, which in his scenario means you've quit groups in excess of 50 times, the odds are you not merely dropping from a crappy piece of equipment or a crappy connection...myself, I'd appreciate the forewarning.

I'm all for it. Its not punishment at all, its earning a label, which is most likely well deserved and will warn potential groupmates not to take your sorry ass with them.

Wow. Can you say rationalization?

So it's not a punishment, but it's something "earned" as a result of undesirable actions? OK, pal, I think you need to grab a dictionary and put a little though into your claims. Labeling people who quit is, in fact, a punishment for quitting.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=punishment
"A penalty imposed for wrongdoing:"

The title is the penalty in this case, obviously; so your point is moot.

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Originally Posted by TheUndertaker

People who quit for no reason really suck but unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it. And most of the time it is for legitimate reasons like a disconnect.

Exactly. Yes, quitters suck when you’re on the receiving end, but there is really no fair way to punish them without having those who quit for legitimate reasons suffer. Quitters in online games is just a reality you have to live with. Coming up with poorly though out way to stop them isn't helping anything, just forget about them and get on with playing. Not to mention that this is just a game; don’t take it so seriously.